This interview discusses the result of work I did during my stay at the Center for Theological Inquiry in Princeton, NJ in Fall 2024. The topic is constructive anger, a climate emotion that appears to be a good candidate in sustaining climate action, while guilt, depression and fear show a lesser degree of providing force for those climate activists that find strength within themselves to continue the fight for climate justice and to save what remains of eco-system integrity that makes life possible for the beings that inhabit this planet. Such constructive anger, rather than a reactive or narcissistic form of it, powers many forms of spirited resistance.

The article this interview is based on is entitled Beyond 'Hope': Constructive Anger as a Force in Sustained Climate Action. Hope and anger seem to be related to each other. For many, the extent of their anger is connected to their hope.

At Pentecost, we remember the receiving of the Holy Spirit that empowers the church to find courage to stand for justice and truth for all beings in creation. Constructive Anger can be one of the ways the Holy Spirit reminds us of God's love for all of creation, and can motivate us to find nonviolent, loving actions in community to counter both despair and indifference towards the destruction of our common home. Pentecost is associated for me also with the medieval mystical hymn Come down, O Love Divine, especially in its setting by Ralph Vaughan Williams. After all, what is divine love if it does not burn so brightly that we engage deeply in the defense of all the sacred parts of this creation?